Saturday, November 1, 2014

Hague research in Cheshire and Lancashire counties, England

     I've recently returned from a couple days looking around Dukinfield, Cheshire Co., England and Ashton-Under-Lyne, Lancashire Co. the location of many Hague families in years past, before coming to Rhode Island, USA.  The River Tame is all that separates the two towns.
      The Birth-Marriage-Death records, after July 1837 should be available for these towns at the Tameside Register Office is located in the Dukinfield Town Hall on King St., in Dukinfield, Cheshire Co.  This is a governmental building where you fill out a form and they check their microfilm (or maybe original record books, I forgot to ask).  I paid 10 pounds for each record Carol was able to find and transcribed for me into a certificate.  The metropolitan borough of "Tameside" encompasses the towns of Ashton-under-Lyne, Audenshaw, Denton, Droylsden, Dukinfield, Hyde, Mossley and Stalybridge.     So the term "Tameside" covers parts of Cheshire and Lancashire counties.  Well, come to think of it... it covers both sides along the Tames River!
 
Tameside Register Office, in the Town Hall of Dukinfield, Cheshire, England 
    The Tameside Local Studies and Archives Centre, is located across the river in the Central Library on Old Street in Ashton-under-Lyne.  This is the center for doing genealogy and history research for the area.  With just an hour to spend there, and the librarians' help, I was able to find an old Dukinfield street map.  I think their microfilm collection must be wonderful.   They have free access to ancestry.com on their many public computers.  So we used the 1841 Census with the map to try to figure out where "New Road" would have been in Dukinfield.  I think it became Crescent Road.
Tameside Local Studies & Archives Centre at Central Library in Ashton-Under-Lyne, Lancashire county

Librarians looking for the old Dukinfield maps at Central Library in Ashton-Under-Lyne.







Old Dukinfield - year unknown that we found at the Library
   They also have books and booklets available for purchase.  I bought a great one called "A History of Dukinfield - No Mean City" by Milan Pavasovic for 3.5 pounds.  There were others to choose from.  Of course they have tons of books, as it is a library.

   I walked around the two churches in Ashton-under-Lyne where some Hague baptisms, banns, marriages and burials took place.  When looking for dates before 1837 you'd have to look at Parish Records (ancestry.com or FamilySearch.org, or FindMyPast.co.uk), rather than the government register office.  There is St. Michael's Church on St Michael's Square in Ashton-u-Lyne (actually called St Michael & All Angels), reportedly built in 12th century,  and St. Peter's Church also in Ashton, built in 1821.
 
St Peter's Church - Ashton.  Gravestones are largely gone.  
St Michael's Church - Ashton-under-Lyne by Mike Berrell
The church where my James Hagues had  his marriages solemnized, was Mottram-in-Longendale about six miles east from Dukinfield and Ashton-Under-Lyne.  I don't really know the church requirements through the years, as to where one needed to go to get their ordinances done.  But my James Hague was married twice (1830 and 1844) at Mottram Parish Church.  Evidently they lived in  Dukinfield and it was in Mottram Parish, so they had to go there, instead just across the river into Ashton Parish.  To get an idea of Mottram, I went there with my cousin, John, to see it for ourselves.
     Surprisingly the Mottram Parish Church is actually called "St Michael & All Angels" just like the one in Ashton, and dates back to the late 15th century.   So now there are two St Michael & All Angels Parish churches, but in different counties, and built centuaries apart.  Anyway, I'm confused with all this.  The Mottram church is high on a hill, more rural, and looks like economic times are hard there to keep it up.  There are gravestones, but I'm sure the majority are gone, or underground now.
St Michael and All Angels - the Parish Church at Mottram-in-Longendale, Cheshire, England
  Finally I spent some time back in Dukinfield at what is left of the old Moravian Burial Ground.  There are graves there from 1751 to 1973.  The church itself was next to the burial ground, but moved to a new site in on Yew Street, Dukinfield in 1973.  The deteriorating old church was sold.  I found the church grounds to have houses built there now.  The burial ground is on Moravian Close just off of Old Road.  If I have his parents correct, my James Hague was baptised there in 1806.  These parents baptised their children there from 1805 through 1813 and by 1816 they were apparently out of the Moravian Church and baptising the rest of their children at St. Michael's in Ashton.  (After establishing Dukinfield, the Moravians established a very large church, in 1785, with workshops in Droyslen on the west side of Ashton-under-Lyne.)  These Moravian baptisms are online.  

Donna Hague Wendt at the gate to the grounds
Burying Ground at Moravian Close, Dukinfield

Thankfully this burying ground is being restored.  All stones laid out.

Tombstones are numbered.  This is No 1 John Line, buried in 1754

Monday, November 22, 2010

Hague Passenger Records to USA

  Here are some Hagues that arrived in New York in 1848  on the Queen and the Delta -  from
 "1820-1850 Passenger and Immigration Lists  Passenger Lists"
  
(ancestry.com Nov 2010)

Samuel, Elizabeth and Grace Hague – Arrival 1 June 1848  on the “Queen” to New York
Port of Arrival:New York, New YorkPort of Departure:Liverpool, EnglandPlace of Origin:Great Britain
Ship: Queen
Family Identification:1013674  /  Microfilm Serial Number:M237  Microfilm Roll Number:73
   Samuel Hague    - Age: 74  Gender: M Birth: abt 1774
   Elizabeth Hague - Age: 40  Gender: F  Birth: abt 1808
   Grace Hague     - Age: 28  Gender: F   Birth. abt 1820

Ann, Harriett, Joseph and Emma Hague – Arrival 24 Aug 1848  on the “Delta” to New York
Port of Arrival: New YorkPort of Departure: London
Place of Origin: Great Britain
Ship: Delta
Family Identification:1154481   /  Microfilm Serial Number:M237  Microfilm Roll Number:74
   Ann Hague        - Age: 55  Gender: F    Birth: abt 1793
   Harriett Hague - Age: 24  Gender: F    Birth:  abt 1824
   Joseph Hague   - Age: 21  Gender: M   Birth:  abt 1827
   Emma Hague    - Age: 13  Gender: F     Birth. abt 1835
   Hannah Hague  - Age: 12  Gender: F    Birth:  abt 1836
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Here are some Hagues arriving in the US listed by
 Immigrant Ships Transcriber's Guild:

SS Commonwealth            
Liverpool, England
 to  Boston, Massachusetts   -  23 May 1901
List or Manifest of Alien Immigrants for the Commissioner of Immigration - Port of Boston
Alien Immigrants arrived by Steamship Commonwealth, from Liverpool, 23rd of May, 1901.

# on list             Name             age      Nationality    Last Residence      Destination    Occupation
 38  Jonathan Hague 54 m English Ashton   Pautucket, R..I.    lab'r                
 39  Mrs Hague          50  f  English Ashton    Pautucket, R..I.    wife                 
 40  Joseph Hague   26 m English  Ashton   Pautucket, R..I.    lab'r                
 41* Herot. Hague      9 m  English  Ashton   Pautucket, R..I. lab'r  (*first name hard to read)               
 42  Mary Hague     16  f   English   Ashton   Pautucket, R..I.    servant              
 43  Sellus Hague   11  f   English   Ashton   Pautucket, R..I.                            
 44  Eliz. Hague      10  f   English   Ashton   Pautucket, R..I.       
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SS Ivernia
Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland to Boston, Massachusetts
18 June 1901 ARRIVAL - BOSTON
This list is the first half of the SS Ivernia, arriving Boston, Ma. on June 18th, 1901, apparently the same as the arrival list.)
For United States Commissioner of Immigration
Port of Boston
Alien Immigrants arrived by Steamship "Ivernia" from L'pool  via  Q'town, June 18th, 1901.
Coloumns represent: Number on list, names, age, sex, nationality, last residence, destination, occupation, number of pieces of baggage, remarks.
# on list   Name                            age       Nationality       Last Residence    Destination      Occupation     Baggage
108  Hague, Sam^l  50  m   English   Ancoals    R.I.    blacksmith    2
109  Hague, Mary   45    f    English   Ancoals    R.I.     wife              2  

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Ship John Bright
Liverpool, England   to   New York
12 June 1857
 DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK
I R C Culting (unsure of name) Master of the Ship John Bright do solemnly, sincerely and truly swear that the following List or Manifest subscribed by me and now delivered by me to the Collector of the Customs of the Collection District of New York is a full and perfect list of all passengers taken on board of the said ship at Liverpool from which said ship has now arrived and that on said list is truly designated the age, the sex, and the occupation of each of said passengers, the part of the vessel occupied by each during the passage, the country to which each belongs, and also the country of which it is intended by each to become an inhabitant and that said List or Manifest truly sets forth the number of said passengers who have died on said voyage and the names and ages of those who died.
Sworn to this June 12, 1857          So help me God.  Before Me

List of Manifest of all the passengers taken on board the Ship John Bright Is Master from Liverpool burthen 1444 tons
Columns represent: Passenger number, name, age, sex, occupation, the country to which they severally belong, the country in which they intend to become inhabitants, died*, location on the vessel*.
#140  Hannah Hague    35    F    Factory girl      England      U.S.      Upper Berth  Deck
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Passengers and Captains
Including Names Referenced in Correspondence  H-Han
HAGUE, ALFRED, 19             SS The Queen
HAGUE, EMMA, 20               SS The Queen 
HAGUE, JOHN, 21               SS The Queen 
HAGUE, GEORGE, 47             SS Batavia 
HAGUE, THOMAS, 117            SS Chicago 
HAGUE, THO^S E, 103           SS The Queen 
HAGUE, WILLIAM, 163           SS Britannic        
        SEE BELOW:

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Ship Dreadnought
Liverpool, England to New York
13 May 1858
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK
I, Samuel Samuels Master of the Ship Dreadnought do solemnly, sincerely and truly Swear that the following List or Manifest, subscribed by me, and now delivered by Me to the Collector of the Customs of the Collection District of New York,is a full and perfect list of all the passengers taken on board of the said ship at Lpool from which port said Ship has now arrived; and that on said list is truly designated the age, the sex, and the occupation of each of said passengers, the part of the vessel occupied by each during the passage, the country to which each belongs, and also the country of which it is intended by each to become an inhabitant; and that said List or Manifest truly sets forth the number of said passengers who have died on said voyage, and the names and ages of those who died.So help me God.
(Signed) S Samuels
Sworn to this 13 May 1858    Before me (Signed) JWhite DC
List or Manifest OF ALL THE PASSENGERS taken on board the Dreadnought whereof S. Samuels is Master, from Liverpool burthen 1413 tons.
Columns represent: Name, Age, Sex, Occupation, The country to which they severally belong, The country to which they intend to become inhabitants, Died on the Voyage, and Part of the vessel occupied by each passenger during the voyage. No deaths were recorded on this voyage and this column has been omitted from this transcription.

  11   W’m Hague    24y   Male   Clerk   U.S.    United States  2nd Cabin
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SS Chicago
Liverpool, England   to   New York
18 February 1867

DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK
I, James Price, Master of the S.S. Chicago, do solemnly, sincerely, and truly swear that the following List or Manifest, subscribed by me, and now delivered by me to the Collector of the Customs of the Collection District of New York, is a full and perfect List of all the Passengers taken on board the said Steamer at Liverpool from which Port the said Steamer has now arrived; and that on said List is truly designated the age, the sex, and the occupation of each of said passengers, the part of the vessel occupied by each during the passage, the country to which each belongs, and also the country of which it is intended by each to become an inhabitant; and that said List or Manifest truly sets forth the number of said Passengers who have died on said Voyage and the names and ages of those who died.
So help me God. (Signature) Ja's Price
Sworn to this February 18 1867,
Before me. (Signature) ???????, D.C.
     List or Manifest of ALL THE PASSENGERS taken on board the S.S. "Chicago" whereof James Price is Master, from Liverpool burthen 1980 tons.
Columns represent: given name and surname, age, occupation, the country to which they severally belong, the country of which they intend to become inhabitants, the part of the vessel occupied during the voyage. Since the Sex of passengers was not recorded, that column is omitted in this transcription.

117* Thomas Hague 30 M Labourer  England  U. States    Steerage

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SS Batavia
Liverpool, England   to   Boston, Massachusetts
9 April 1873
LIST OR MANIFEST of all the passengers taken on board the Steamship Batavia whereof G. E. Mouland is Master, from Liverpool; burden 2553.
Coloumns represent: number on list, Name in full, age in years and months, sex, occupation, the country to which they severally belong, the country of which they intend to become inhabitants, died on the voyage - used for space occupied during the voyage

47  George Hague    31   m   England   United States   steerage

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SS The Queen
Liverpool, England
& Queenstown, Ireland to New York
12 September 1876
                                            
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK
I, John J. Bragg, Master of the SS The Queen, do solemnly, sincerely and truly swear that the following List or Manifest, subscribed by me, and now delivered by me to the Collector of the Customs of the Collection District of New York, is a full and perfect list of all the passengers taken on board the said _____ at L'pool & Q'town from which port said _____ has now arrived; and that on said list is truly designated the age, the sex and the occupation of each of said passengers, the part of the vessel occupied by each during the passage, the country to which each belongs, and also the country of which it is intended by each to become an inhabitant; and that said List or Manifest truly sets forth the number of said passengers who have died on said voyage, and the names and ages of those who died.
Sworn to this 12 Sept 1876    s
p me God,
(signed) John J. Bragg   
before me ________________(illegible signature)
    List or Manifest of all the Passengers taken on board the SS The Queen whereof John J. Bragg, is master, from L'pool & Q'town burthen 2871 tons.
Coloumns represent: Names, age in years and months, sex, occupation, the country to which they severally belong, the country of which they intend to become inhabitants, *died on voyage, part of the vessel occupied by each passenger during the voyage.

 19  Alfred Hague   35     m   labr   Ireland    United States   steerage      
 20  Emma Hague  29     f     wife   Ireland   United States   steerage      
 21  John Hague      4     m   child   Ireland   United States   steerage 
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SS Britannic
Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland to New York
22 July 1876
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK
I, W'm Hy Thompson, Master of the SS Britannic, do solemnly, sincerely and truly swear that the following List or Manifest, subscribed by me, and now delivered by me to the Collector of the Customs of the Collection District of New York, is a full and perfect list of all the passengers taken on board the said "Britannic" at Liverpool & Q'town from which port said "Britannic" has now arrived; and that on said list is truly designated the age, the sex and the occupation of each of said passengers, the part of the vessel occupied by each during the passage, the country to which each belongs, and also the country of which it is intended by each to become an inhabitant; and that said List or Manifest truly sets forth the number of said passengers who have died on said voyage, and the names and ages of those who died.
Sworn to this 22 July 1876   
So help me God,
(signed) William H Thompson
before me ________________(illegible signature)
List or Manifest of all the Passengers taken on board the SS Britannic whereof W. H. Thompson, is master, from Liverpool & Q'town burthen 3152 tons.
Coloumns represent: Names, age in years and months, sex, occupation, the country to which they severally belong, the country of which they intend to become inhabitants, *died on voyage, part of the vessel occupied by each passenger during the voyage.

163  William Hague    25     m   smith     England     U.S.   steerage
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Sunday, October 24, 2010

William Hague b. 1891 "Story Page"

WILLIAM HAGUE
   William Hague was the brother of Donna Hague Blinn's grandfather, Leonard Hague (Sr.).  Leonard and William came to the USA.

Born:              April 1, 1891 ~ 4 Swallows Yard, Stalybridge, England
Married:          May 26, 1917 ~ to Alice Walker in England.
Married:          May 19, 1921 ~ to Sarah Smith, Smith
Married:          August 5, 1944 ~ to Lily, Hurst, Webster
Died:               June 10, 1949 while visiting 38/40 Hope St.-Home of Mr. & Mrs. Leonard Grimshaw
Buried:           Moshassuck Cemetery with 2nd wife Sarah Smith Smith Hague.
 2 rows behind Ernest & Arthur Howles plot.   Father & Brother of Iva Howles Hague.
       
William was the first child born to Thomas and Agnes Hague (“Haigh” on his birth record) of Stalybridge. William was the 2nd  child birthed by Agnes.   (Agnes had a daughter, Louisa aka: Louise) in 1887 prior to her marriage to William’s father, Thomas Hague).    The marriage of Thomas and Agnes took place on November 29, 1890 and about 4 months later William was born on 01 April 1891,

It’s assumed they named their first son after Thomas’ father who was also William Hague.  William Hague had a listed profession as a private grenadier guard & cloth dyer on his 1917 marriage record and served in World War 1 as a corporal in the Grenadier Guards of the British per his obituary notice in the Pawtucket Times. 

At approximately 26 years old on May 26, 1917, William married Alice Walker, a cotton frame tenter, (also 26 yrs. old) at Mount Olivet Chapel, Stalybridge.   Alice was the daughter of a coal dealer, John Walker.  William was living at 121 Grasscroft Street, the home of his parents, and Alice was from 21 Ashley Street, both in Stalybridge.  The witnesses were J. Hague and A. Hague: it is assumed these witnesses were his brother James Hague and either his sister Annie or Alice Hague.  The records held in Central Falls, RI indicate that William and Alice eventually divorced.    Four years after his first marriage, William then married a divorced woman named Sarah (Smith) Smith ~ her maiden name and married name were both Smith.  The Justice of the Superior Court married William and Sarah in Pawtucket on May 19, 1921.  William was then about 30 years old. 

obituary:
William Hague, a machinist, died on June 10, 1949 at approximately 58 years old of coronary thrombosis and passed away unexpectedly while visiting the home of Mr. & Mrs. Leonard Grimshaw of 38 Hope Street, Pawtucket.   His usual residence was 229 East Street, Pawtucket.  Buglers at his funeral sounded taps.  He was a member of Post 88, Canadian Legion and a marker reflecting this is placed at his grave in Moshassuck.  No children were born from any of William’s three marriages (per Gloria). 
    Note:  William Hague could not have come to America 39 years  prior to his death in 1949 as written in his Obit.   In 1910 he was about 19 years old and most likely would have still been in England.
  --William married Alice Walker in 1917 in Stalybridge, England. In 1921, he married Sarah Smith Smith in America.

 
Sarah Smith Smith Hague
B:        January 22, 1885 - England
M:        May 19, 1921 in Pawtucket, RI
D:        December 30, 1943 (58 years old)Buried: Moshassuck Cemetery under William Hague/single plot  William’s 2nd wife, Sarah, was born in 1885 so she was about 6 years older than William.  She was divorced from her first husband.  Her parents were James Smith and Catherine Logan both of England.  At the time of the marriage between William and Sarah both were listed as residing at 4 Liberty Street (off Hunt St. in Central Falls, RI.  This was the same residence as Leonard Hague Sr. at the time he arrived from England to live with his brother William until Leonard married Iva in 1926. Iva was living on 76 Earle St. .  Sarah was a weaver and William a spinner and the name/occupations of their fathers on their marriage certificate showed Thomas Hague/gas worker and James Smith (her father) as deceased.    Sarah was remembered as being a nice person and loved by Leonard & Iva. They would often visit Sarah & William on Liberty Street.
.  William & Sarah were listed as the witnesses at Leonard & Iva’s wedding.  Sarah Smith Smith Hague died on December 30, 1943 (buried on January 2, 1944) at approximately 58 years old.  She died at 4 Liberty Streetbut her resident address was 29 East Street, Pawtucket, RI.  I’m not sure who would have been then living at
4 Liberty Street , the place of Sarah’s death as both she and William had moved to East Street in Pawtucket.  She died of coronary thrombis, chronic myocarditis.  Sarah is buried underneath William Hague in Moshassuck Cemetery, in Central Falls, RI.
Eight months after the death of Sarah, William married a widow named Lily Hurst Webster.  Gloria believes William may have met Lily at the British Canadian Legion Club in Pawtucket, RI. 

 Lily Hurst Webster Hague
B:        January 6, 1893 in England
M:        Mr. Webster – marriage information unknown
M:        William Hague ~ August 5, 1944 in Pawtucket.
D:        after June 1949 (exact date unknown)
Buried: Moshassuck Cemetery, Central Falls, RI with her first husband Charles Webster.
Lily was born on January 6, 1893 as the daughter of Ralph Hurst and June all of England.  Lily was about 51 years old and a weaver when she married William Hague (53 yrs old), a lathe hand.  Both of their fathers were deceased when they married in Pawtucket/Baptist.  There is no recollection or photos of Lily, but Gloria believes Lily & William met at the Canadian Legion Club in Pawtucket, RI

Louise Bancroft - Step-Daughter of Thomas Hague

Louisa Bancroft Young (aka: Louise)
   Louisa Bancroft was the step-sister of Donna Hague Blinn's grandfather, Leonard Hague, Sr. who came to the USA

 Born: June 17, 1887 at
9 Elgin Street, Stalybridge, England
Parent: Agnes Bancroft ~ father unknown. Raised with Thomas Hague family
Siblings: stepsister to Hague's: William, John, James, Annie, Leonard, Alice
 Married: January 24, 1909 ~ The Parish of Castle Hall, Stalybridge
 Husband: James Henry Young
 Child: Agnes Young Mottershead
 Died: May 31, 1977 at 89 years old – 30 Cambray Rd. Blackpool, England
 Buried: unknown

Louisa Bancroft was born in 1887 as the daughter of Agnes Bancroft.  Agnes later married Thomas Hague in 1890 so Louise was about 3 years old when her mother married Thomas.  Louise’s birth record shows her mother’s occupation as a cotton box tenter and no father’s name is shown on her birth or marriage records.

 At the time of the 1901 census, Louise was living with her mother and Thomas, along with all the other Hague children at 119 Grasscroft Street.  She was then about 13 years old and working as a cotton weaver.

On January 24, 1909, Louise (21 year old, weaver) living at 121 Grasscroft Street (home of Thomas & Agnes Hague) married James Henry Young (aka: Harry), a 25 year old porter from 16 Stamford Street.
He was the son of William Young, a coachman and Eleanor Chilton Young (formerly Carr).   Louise and Harry were married at the Parish Church of Castle Hall in Stalybridge, England.

Just over one year later, Louise and Harry had a daughter on March 27, 1910 and named her Agnes, presumably after Louise’s mother. Agnes Young married a man named (Herbert) Bert Mottershead (sometime after 1939 -- place unknown.)   Louise, Harry and Agnes remained in Stalybridge until at least 1939 (according to voter’s records) and lived at 119 Grasscroft Street– a house attached or joined to 121 Grasscroft where her stepfather, Thomas Hague resided.  Her mother, Agnes Bancroft Hague, had died in 1935.    No voters’ records were produced during the war so the next voters list was in1945 and the Young family had gone by then. 

The following photo is typical of what this type of “adjoining” housing (119 & 121 Grasscroft Street) would have looked like in Stalybridge during that period.  -- photo to be inserted --

I learned from a neighbor (Irene Kerr of Blackpool England) that Louise and Harry were shopkeepers in Stalybridge but eventually Louise could not continue the business as her husband took ill. I have not been able to trace any records as to what type of shop they owned/ran from Stalybridge records.   The family eventually moved to Blackpool England (assuming sometime between late 1939 and 1945) and lived at these locations:
   -- 12 Campbell Avenue – in 1958 – year of death James H. Young (Harry)
   --  Cumbria Avenue
   -- 30 Cambray Road - Louisa lived here with her daughter and son-in-law (Agnes & Bert Mottershead) until her death in 1977.

Louise kept in contact over the years with her step brother, Leonard Hague, Sr. who was then living in America (Rhode Island) by sending cards and pictures as did her daughter Agnes.  From Louise’s writings, it appeared she was a spiritual woman.  Her neighbor (Irene Kerr on Cambray Rd) mentioned during our visit with her in June 2003, that Louise was considered a very wise woman ~ someone who others would approach to seek advice.

Irene also told a story about Louise once being attacked by her son-in-law, Bert.  It seems that Bert had an illness in which he was taking medication.  The medication has a rare potential for side effects but evidently he was one that suffered from them.  The story told by Irene was that Bert attacked Louise with a kitchen knife but the outcome was not harmful or fatal to Louise.


Louise’s husband, James Young (“Harry”) (railway foreman) died in 1958 and is buried with her mother, Agnes Bancroft Hague, at St. Paul’s in Stalybridge. The church records indicate Louise purchased the plot. 

Louise died on May 31, 1977 of cerebral astereoclerosis at her home on 30 Cambray Road in the presence of her daughter.  Her place of burial is unknown.

Her daughter, Agnes Young Mottershead, was affiliated with the Methodist Church. I’m not sure if her mother was also a member of this religion & therefore buried from a local (Blackpool) Methodist church.  However, it seems that the Norwich Cathedral was of interest for some reason to Louise as she sent over several photos/postcards of this particular church

Thomas Hague b. 1864 "Story Page"

Thomas Hague
   Thomas Hague is the great-grandfather of Donna Hague Blinn.  Thomas H. Hague's son, Leonard Hague (Sr.), came to Rhode Island.  Leonard was Donna's grandfather.

Born:    July 19, 1864 Barley Croft Newton. District Newton & Godley
Parents:            William Hague & Hannah (Thorp) M: Sept 5, 1848
Siblings:            Selina Hague Smith B: May 4, 1852
            Joseph Hague B: December 30, 1861
            Sarah Hague B: June 17, 1866
`           James Hague B: January 19, 1870
            Hannah Hague Horsefield B: August 28, 1874              
Married:           November 29, 1890 – Agnes Bancroft
St. George’s Church~Parish of New St. George’s~Stalybridge
Discharged:      August 3, 1893 with certificate of good character.
Died:                April 24, 1937 11 Friendship Yard~
Huddersfield Rd. Stalybridge
Buried: St. Paul’s with daughter Annie Hilton & son-in-law Walter Hilton                        Grave No. R.26G.103

Thomas Hague was born to William & Hannah (Thorp/e) Hague.  At 16 years old, although he gave his age as 18, he joined the Black Watch Regiment at York in 1881.  His obituary lists his many accomplishments during his years in the military service including his war medals for his battles of engagement. 

The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) was the first kilted regiment in the British Army and the first to introduce the bagpipe.  It’s the oldest regiment and dates back to 1624 when the government of the day felt they needed to “keep a check on the wild clansmen.”

In 1889, at about 25 years old, Thomas returned to civil life.  In November, 1890 he married Agnes Bancroft, cotton box tenter, who had a 3-year-old child named Louisa (Louise) Bancroft. 

Thomas served with the Stalybridge Police Borough for a short time. Thomas and Agnes had 6 children together ~ William, John, James, Annie, Leonard & Alice. All immigrated to America except for his daughter Annie with whom he is buried.  John Hague was killed in WWI.

Thomas died at 72 year old of bronchopneumonia, hemiplegia (left) and cerebral thrombosis, in the presence of his son-in-law, Walter Hilton who was living at 11 Friendship Yard.  Thomas’ place of burial in St. Paul’s churchyard in Stalybridge is reputedly the largest church burial ground in England but fell into decay and all monuments were removed around 2000.

John Hague b. 1893 "Story Page"

John Hague
  -- The great uncle of Donna Hague Blinn.  Donna's grandfather, Leonard Hague b. 1898 England, d. 1958 Pawtucket, RI was brother to this John Hague who died in France during WWI--

 Born: March 14, 1893 ~ 4 Swallows Yard, Stalybridge
 Marriage: Not Married.
 World War I ~ 1914 –1918   
  (War declared August 14, 1914.  Peace declared: June 28,1919)
 Died: September 1916 in World War I
  Burial Place: France. Unknown grave. Name on Thiepval Wall

John Hague was the second son born to Thomas and Agnes Hague: he was born 2 years after their first son, William. His father’s profession was listed as a Borough Policeman/Stalybridge on John’s birth record.

In the 1901 Census, John was listed among all the children living with Thomas & Agnes; he was 8 years old at the time of this census. Prior to obtaining the March, 1901 census out of Stalybridge, it was unknown that John was yet another child within the Thomas Hague family and many mysteries still remain unsolved on John’s life.

In searching for a copy of his death record, England’s Tameside Registrar’s office has searched the Stalybridge death indexes from 1901- 1916 and they found no record of his death.  They also further researched the area of Ashton where a local hospital was located and found no death record from 1901-1910.


Grenadier Guards 1915

In October of 2003, when I connected with Delia Martin (great granddaughter of Thomas Hague), documents and photos became available in which it became apparent that John Hague had served as a Guardsman in the Grenadier Guards for the British Military during the Great War.

Leonard Hague Sr. (John’s brother) did not often talk about John when reminiscing about his brothers and sisters back in England. However, Gloria seems to recall a brief mention of his name by Grandpa (Leonard Hague, Sr.) at some point in time where he stated: “…and then there was my brother, John.”

The photos of John are not dated except for the one dated “1918” where it is speculated that John is shown in the back row (4th from the left). This was based on the facial features and hairstyle when compared to another photo of John.  However, John died 10 Sept 1916 in the Battle of the Somme in France in: he was killed next to his brother, William Hague. Newspaper article tells of this event. Perhaps the photo date is 1913. With this original photo in the family archives, it assuredly means a family member is in this photo.

In 1920 his father, Thomas Hague, received a scroll commemorating John’s duty to his country.  There is also a memorial document from Buckingham Palace signed by King George noting “a brave life given for others in the Great War

Hagues in Early Rhode Island Cemeteries

I've compiled cemetery records that I've found, certainly a drop in the bucket, but many family connections can be surmised from this information - Donna Hague Wendt

Found and printed out a list (see below)at the RI Histoircal Society near Brown University, by Providence, RI  .  Also Included are some inscriptions from http://www.findagrave.com/; and also http://ricemeteries.tripod.com/

GRACE CHURCH CEMETERY, PROVIDENCE:  (none listed in FindAGrave)
Hague, John                 
Betty
            Elizabeth
            James J.
            Sarah
Sarah E.  child

NORTH BURIAL GROUND, PROVIDENCE
Hague, Samuel  husb of Mary A.   1834 / 1872  30 June age 38
Mary  A.  1841c / 1900  2 Mar age 59
James J.*  1857 / 25 Feb 1913  … husb of Sophia Reid
            Sophia Reid*  1857 / 1939    wife of James J. Hague  
            Mary J. Burton  1851 / 1888
Infant  1862/1862
John E.  1873 / 1873

POCASSET CEMETERY, CRANSTON, providence county.
Hague, John H*.  1815 / 1894      [must be John H. Hague, Sr. b. 1815 d. 1894]
            Mary Ann*  1821 / 1883   [must be wife of John Hague, Sr. b.16 Sep 1821/ d. 31 Aug 1883]
John*  1846 / 1908            [must be John H. Hague, Jr.  b. Jun. 28, 1846 d. Mar. 27, 1908]
James W*.  1874 / 1902         b. Jul. 15, 1874 d. Apr. 17, 1902 FindAGrave  Note: Location of death: Zamboanga, Mindanao. Member Co G Corps of Engineers, USA.Also member of Co E, RI Vols
            Edith A. Hayes 1866 / 1917
            Charles T. 1865 / 1934
             Alice  1872c / 1899
Maude*  1880 / 1926    [b.Oct. 29, 1880   d: Oct. 12, 1926  dau of John & Anastasia.]
Bertram  1894c / 1894b
Edith A. 1896 /
            Lillian V.  1900
            Margaret A. 1904 / 1977
            Robert E*.  1928 / 1928  [b. May 23, 1928 d. Jul. 20, 1928 ]  This is on the right side of Scales/Smith (#30a)
           
PAWTUCKET       Walnut Hill (PW004) Cemetery   (no Hagues in FindAGrave)
Hague, Carolina     /  d 1918b
            Charles Jacob    /  1936b
            Edwin    /  d. 1917b
            Jacob   /  1907b
            John      /   1970
            Selena    /  d 1966

CENTRAL FALLS
Hague, Ellen Smith  d 1907
            Ellen     1845 / 1910
            Esther A.  1848c / 1926
            Ethel May  1903c / 1913
            Herbert  1904 c / 1928
            Herbert  1882c / 1933
            John  1877c / 1921
            John             / 1970
            Jonathan   1850c / 1911
            Louisa  1873c / 1918
            Sarah Chadwick  1841c / 1922
            Sarah E.  1873c  / 1930
            Selina  1851c / 1933

EAST GREENWICH CEMETERY
Hague, Sarah*  1786c / 27 Sep 1849  age 63   [probably tombstone says 1849 instead of 1819 as reported]
            Sarah A.  13 Oct 1848 / 13 Sep 1850  [b. unknown d. Sep. 27, 1819]  Behind the grave of Sarah Hague (1819) 

NORTH SMITHFIELD      UNION CEMETERY
Hague, Thomas W.  1857 / 1928
Marion E. Boston  1859 / 1914
            Benjamin E.  1888 / 1944
            Marion  1890 / 1923

^^^^
FIND A GRAVE:

SWAN POINT CEMETERY, PROVIDENCE
            Leonard, Jr*.  b. Feb. 25, 1928 d. Apr. 3, 1999  Born 25 Feb 1928 in Central Falls, RI
Died 3 Apr 1999 in Pawtucket, RI  Buried: Swan Point Cemetery, Providence RI  (see Donna Blinn’s family tree)

RHODE ISLAND VETERANS MEMORIAL   Exeter, Washington Co, RI
            Hague, Benjamin Paul, Col US Army, WWII  b. 8 May 1920  d. 3 May 1997
            Hague, Anna  b. Mar. 12, 1920 d. Dec. 23, 2000   Wife of Benjamin P. Hague
            Hague, Charles J.  b. Feb. 9, 1933 d. Jan. 7, 2001   US Army Korea
                Hague, Joseph L.  b. Jul. 27, 1923 d. Jul. 7, 2003   YN1 US Navy, WWII
                Hague, Winifred A.   b. Sep. 14, 1928 d. Oct. 21, 2005       Wife of James Hague, Jr.
               
NEWPORT MEMORIAL PARK   Middletown.  Newport County. Rhode Island, USA
            Hague, Kenneth Borden  b. Aug. 12, 1920 d. Mar. 6, 2001

^^^^^^^^^^
http://genforum.genealogy.com/hague/messages/486.html
I am not related - this is part of a transcription project.

St. Francis (Catholic) Cemetery, Pawtucket, RI
Section 51

HAGUE - LOUGH
(# 154)
Charles J. Hague, 1891 - 1927
Elizabeth J. Hague, 1863 - 1948
Owen L. Lough, 1882 - 1960
his wife Mary A. Hague, 1894 - 1975
Luke E. Hague, 1896 - 1970
his wife Elizabeth R. McCaughey, 1898 - 1977
rest in peace
^^^^^^^^^^
This is an updated list from the paper list I got in 2002

HAGUE          (INFANT)                          1862  - 26 JUL 1862    PV001  
HAGUE          ALICE                                1872c - 21 OCT 1899    CR002  
HAGUE          ANNA                                                    -                RI001  
HAGUE          BENJAMIN E                     1888  - 17 FEB 1944    NS007  
HAGUE          BENJAMIN P                     1920  -  3 MAY 1997    RI001  
HAGUE          BERTRAM                          1894c -  1 AUG 1894b   CR002  
HAGUE          BETTY                                                   -                    PV005  
HAGUE          CAROLINA                                   - 14 JAN 1918b   PW004  
HAGUE          CATHERINE                      1875c -  27 MAR 1939    CF001  
HAGUE          CHARLES JACOB                         -  2 JUN 1936b   PW004  
HAGUE          CHARLES T                        1865   -              1934    CR002  
HAGUE          DOROTHY R                                  -                           RI001  
HAGUE          EDITH A                               1896  -                          CR002  
HAGUE          EDITH A         (HAYES)      1866  -        1917          CR002  
HAGUE          EDITH A                               1896  -                          CR002  
HAGUE          EDWIN                                           - 13 APR 1917b   PW004  
HAGUE          ELIZABETH                                     -                        PV005  
HAGUE          ELLEN           (SMITH)                 - 17 AUG 1907    CF001  
HAGUE          ELLEN                                 1845c - 17 APR 1910    CF001  
HAGUE          ESTHER A.                          1848c - 22 OCT 1926    CF001  
HAGUE          ETHEL MAY                        1903c - 19 NOV 1913    CF001  
HAGUE          GRACE R.        (TAIT)         1918c -  6 JUN 1999    CF001  
HAGUE          HERBERT                             1904c - 20 APR 1928    CF001  
HAGUE          HERBERT                            1882c - 20 NOV 1933    CF001  
HAGUE          IRENE L                                                      -                RI001  
HAGUE          JACOB                                           - 22 SEP 1907b   PW004  
HAGUE          JAMES J                               1857  -               1913    PV001  
HAGUE          JAMES J                                                  -                PV005  
HAGUE          JAMES W                           1874  - 17 APR 1902    CR002  
HAGUE          JOHN                                   1877c - 24 FEB 1921    CF001  
HAGUE          JOHN                                   1840c -  4 FEB 1930    CF001  
HAGUE          JOHN                                   1846  - 27 MAR 1908    CR002  
HAGUE          JOHN                                             - 26 OCT 1970    PW004  
HAGUE          JOHN                                              -                          PV005  
HAGUE          JOHN E                              1873c      -        1873       PV001  
HAGUE          JOHN H                             1815  - 23 DEC 1894    CR002  
HAGUE          JOHN P                              1924  - 17 AUG 1977    RI001  
HAGUE          JONATHAN                      1850c -  8 APR 1911    CF001  
HAGUE          LILLIAN V                         1900  -                          CR002  
HAGUE          LOUISA                              1873c - 14 OCT 1918    CF001  
HAGUE          MARGARET A                        1904  -        1977    CR002  
HAGUE          MARGARET A                        1904  -        1977    CR002  
HAGUE          MARION                            1890  - 12 OCT 1923    NS007  
HAGUE          MARION E        (BOSTON)          1859  - 26 MAR 1914    NS007  
HAGUE          MARY A                            1841c -  2 MAR 1900    PV001  
HAGUE          MARY ANN                       1821  - 31 AUG 1883    CR002  
HAGUE          MAUDE                              1880  - 12 OCT 1926    CR002  
HAGUE          ROBERT E                          1928  - 20 JUL 1928    CR002  
HAGUE          RUSSELL R                         1928  - 22 JAN 1995    RI001  
HAGUE          SAMUEL                             1834c - 20 JUN 1872    PV001  
HAGUE          SARAH      (CHADWICK)  1841c -  5 JAN 1922    CF001  
HAGUE          SARAH                                1892c - 30 DEC 1943    CF001  
HAGUE          SARAH                                1786c - 27 SEP 1849    EG038  
HAGUE          SARAH                                                  -                PV005  
HAGUE          SARAH A                             1848  - 13 SEP 1850    EG038  
HAGUE          SARAH E                                              -                PV005  
HAGUE          SARAH E.                            1873c - 26 MAR 1930    CF001  
HAGUE          SELENA                                         - 16 SEP 1966    PW004  
HAGUE          SELINA                                1851c - 22 DEC 1933    CF001  
HAGUE          SOPHIA          (READ)         1857  -        1939    PV001  
HAGUE          THOMAS W                         1857  - 28 FEB 1928    NS007